Archive Chat conversation

Oh well this is not kijiji. But this conversation got my panties in a bunch.Normally I don't care about archives but I was doing a little bit of this and a little bit of that.. found out you can access it.. and read.. didn't know who T8 was.. as I didn't accept the user into the forum. So was interested..

I am sure others will be interested in this conversation.. and how petty it can be. How they as a pack of vultures will attack another breeder. Who tries to advocate for their breed.

I will highlight the good points. I didn't want to do this.. But this is why I am so passionate in my large breed threads. This is the reason, that these breeders ( or wanna bes) makes my blood boil. This is why, we have so many things happen in the first place. I may have a lot of passion.. and Red has the same passion... it is because we feel and not for the almight buck. Verylong post.. but very interesting indeed... I like how they come on here to have fun.. and start trouble.... isn't it interesting..


Eatmouse I am very surprissed because I loved reading your posts and had great respect for you in regards to some of things..

feathers.. OMG.. you make me sick.. sorry.. yes it is personal.... I will save my comments for later..



00:51:12 09/06/10] ram : Welcome Eatamouse - glad you made it
[00:51:17 09/06/10] eatamouse : Hey everyone!
[00:51:18 09/06/10] feathers : hey mouse
[00:51:26 09/06/10] eatamouse : Who's site is this?
[00:51:39 09/06/10] feathers : Mini
[00:51:39 09/06/10] eatamouse : Hi ram and feathers...
[00:51:54 09/06/10] ram : NIcki isn't Nicki here - her handle is the name of some kind of car
[00:52:01 09/06/10] eatamouse : I am in the pink today
[00:52:22 09/06/10] eatamouse : our nicki from kijiji, feather?
[00:52:39 09/06/10] feathers : oh who is the nicki just lurking then
[00:52:46 09/06/10] ram : yes she got approved last nite
[00:52:55 09/06/10] eatamouse : woohoo!
[00:52:57 09/06/10] ram : not sure
[00:53:00 09/06/10] eatamouse : What fun we will have
[00:53:18 09/06/10] feathers : well should be fun any way . LOL
[00:53:19 09/06/10] eatamouse : Well, whoever...thank you for approving me...
[00:53:48 09/06/10] feathers : we have a good time here can say what we want
[00:53:59 09/06/10] eatamouse : I like that alot!
[00:54:13 09/06/10] eatamouse : I am sick of Red...point blank sick of her
[00:54:27 09/06/10] feathers : yes being over modded is a bitch
[00:54:27 09/06/10] eatamouse : she made the usa side of kijiji a mess too
[00:54:49 09/06/10] eatamouse : I noticed 'angus' made a point of being on the breeders thread
[00:54:50 09/06/10] feathers : She has disapointed me I use to love her post
[00:54:52 09/06/10] eatamouse : haha
[00:55:07 09/06/10] eatamouse : Her ego is just too much for me
[00:55:20 09/06/10] eatamouse : I would rather be humble and learn from everyone I meet
[00:55:29 09/06/10] ram : Rebacca will be back after she re-groups
[00:55:42 09/06/10] feathers : I missed all of that when I had a crash and was busy with the rest. working from 4:30a until 10p
[00:55:43 09/06/10] ram : heres the proper Nicki
[00:56:11 09/06/10] eatamouse : ram is nicki?
[00:56:14 09/06/10] feathers : Hey tr8
[00:56:28 09/06/10] eatamouse : tr8 is nicki?
[00:56:28 09/06/10] feathers : you have a impersonator on here
[00:56:32 09/06/10] TR8 : Tis me guys....hi all
[00:56:34 09/06/10] eatamouse : I am easy to confuse...haha
[00:56:43 09/06/10] eatamouse : woohoo!
[00:56:45 09/06/10] ram : no ram is mcauley
[00:56:56 09/06/10] eatamouse : I use the same name everywhere...I am a simple person
[00:57:03 09/06/10] eatamouse : Love ram
[00:57:08 09/06/10] feathers : hell i was talking to her making fun of her for not posting
[00:57:29 09/06/10] feathers : me to just shortened it to feathers on here
[00:57:49 09/06/10] eatamouse : that much I figured out ...lol
[00:58:08 09/06/10] feathers : One of the pug trio named me feathers and fur on the US side LOL
[00:58:17 09/06/10] eatamouse : I cleaned the house in 20 minutes this morning...I hate cleaning any more
[00:58:28 09/06/10] feathers : i was frietherdfriends
[00:58:28 09/06/10] eatamouse : I think that was me...
[00:58:45 09/06/10] feathers : well spelled that wrong
[00:59:04 09/06/10] feathers : Yes I do believe it was
[00:59:12 09/06/10] eatamouse : I just contacted Kismet and Crash (part of the pug trio) to get on kijiji...can I invite them here?
[00:59:14 09/06/10] TR8 : Oh, I got in trouble for spelling dachshund wrong!
[00:59:32 09/06/10] eatamouse : I told them what fun we were having with Red..that is why they left
[00:59:34 09/06/10] feathers : well we know your a wing nut LOL
[00:59:51 09/06/10] ram : Yes that was the last post about the spelling
[00:59:58 09/06/10] eatamouse : hahahahah
[01:00:05 09/06/10] TR8 : and a trouble maker, puppy farmer etc ..don't leave that out!
[01:00:16 09/06/10] eatamouse : I loved puppy farmer!
[01:00:31 09/06/10] eatamouse : I dont think that sounds bad at all!
[01:00:39 09/06/10] eatamouse : better than puppy mill
[01:00:55 09/06/10] eatamouse : I had someone call me a puppy mill when I had two dogs
[01:00:58 09/06/10] TR8 : No, I don't mind farming puppies, I'm no good with veggies
[01:01:18 09/06/10] eatamouse : I invited them over for lunch and showed them everything...bored them to death!
[01:01:27 09/06/10] TR8 : 2 dogs, puppymill...oooooh
[01:01:43 09/06/10] feathers : hell i never set out to insult red i just have my thoughts on a powerful breed
[01:02:03 09/06/10] TR8 : Wonder where she went,and if she'll be back, the post re: some going to miss her was deleted!
[01:02:15 09/06/10] eatamouse : I tried really had to say large breeds and not be specific but everything is about her
[01:02:48 09/06/10] feathers : she just wanted to domanate the boards
[01:03:05 09/06/10] TR8 : They scare the hell outa me...my kids wouldn't be left alone with one
[01:03:05 09/06/10] eatamouse : what happened to calling dashounds doxies...is that a no-no?
[01:03:09 09/06/10] feathers : was pissed any of us knew anything about breeding
[01:03:19 09/06/10] eatamouse : she dominates everything
[01:03:31 09/06/10] ram : That thread was deleted due to my comment about Professional councelling and your comment about the website LUBA
[01:03:39 09/06/10] eatamouse : Is she married or just lonely with these massive dogs for company
[01:03:45 09/06/10] eatamouse : What is Luba
[01:04:05 09/06/10] eatamouse : it was always at night that she when nutts
[01:04:13 09/06/10] TR8 : Oh..ooops, sorry, but thought the word should be spread..
[01:04:34 09/06/10] ram : another chat forum - in desperate need of our expertise and suttle comments
[01:04:53 09/06/10] feathers : when I first moved to fl a 92 yr old woman was walking her GSD and when she rounded a corner her house was on fire she started screaming for help and her damn dog killed her , dog was trained out of this worl
[01:04:58 09/06/10] eatamouse : hehe...so much to do to right the world
[01:06:07 09/06/10] feathers : Pluba is the forum name
[01:06:10 09/06/10] eatamouse : Red's dogs looked drugged in those pictures with kids...like giving a horse too much bute before taking it to auction!
[01:06:13 09/06/10] TR8 : oh, I know she needs our expertise, but she will not listen, thus...ah well
[01:06:40 09/06/10] feathers : ohyou know your bute ? yea old trick
[01:06:43 09/06/10] eatamouse : Too bad...many she would have a normal size litter for a large breed dog.
[01:06:43 09/06/10] TR8 : I said that in the post, I think that is what did it to her...thanks for the tip
[01:07:08 09/06/10] eatamouse : I learned the hard way about bute by buying a horse at auction...it was nutts!
[01:07:26 09/06/10] feathers : if he was letting his penis hang low then yes ...........will that do that to a dog or just a horse ?
[01:07:26 09/06/10] eatamouse : dang, I didnt see that!!!
[01:08:02 09/06/10] eatamouse : really? wonder what it would do to hubs...oh...I didnt say that!
[01:08:35 09/06/10] feathers : same as 3 beers lol
[01:08:39 09/06/10] TR8 : hahaha
[01:09:25 09/06/10] eatamouse : with that I have to go actually work for some money. I have a baby clothes store that makes the money for the bottomless pit of the dog business that spends it....I will check in later!
[01:09:34 09/06/10] feathers : you watch her web cam when she was having the gracie litter ohmy god no wonder the dog had problems
[01:10:30 09/06/10] feathers : she pestred that dog to pieces
[01:10:49 09/06/10] TR8 : which one couldn't get pregnant..Penny? She spent big bucks on a sire and nothing happened
[01:11:13 09/06/10] feathers : penny didn't take the last time
[01:11:45 09/06/10] feathers : any who should have had a live cover not frozen sperm
[01:11:46 09/06/10] ram : who was the dog that had the problems - 2 mummified pups and only 2 live ones
[01:11:49 09/06/10] TR8 : Oh...that must have made her happy, I saw her reaction on another Forum..not nice
[01:12:21 09/06/10] feathers : oyou missed one the one with cleft palate
[01:12:31 09/06/10] feathers : was 5
[01:12:46 09/06/10] ram : same mother dog yes
[01:12:55 09/06/10] feathers : she was playing the line breeding game
[01:12:56 09/06/10] TR8 : Oh, and we are supposed to jump at her every word..?????
[01:13:02 09/06/10] feathers : yes
[01:13:10 09/06/10] feathers : same mother penny
[01:13:50 09/06/10] ram : Ohhhhhhhhhhh and she didn't take when bred this last time
[01:13:54 09/06/10] feathers : I wonder if after I posted this morning is when her thread got deleted
[01:14:08 09/06/10] TR8 : So, in actuallity most of us are doing way better in breeding than she is! What a surprise!
[01:14:31 09/06/10] feathers : right she never took , had the disaster litter and then no litter
[01:14:56 09/06/10] TR8 : And lost 7 to Parvo...hmmmm
[01:15:17 09/06/10] feathers : yep that is why she has the attitude know it has to be killing her us fucking puppy farmers
[01:15:28 09/06/10] feathers : lol
[01:15:57 09/06/10] feathers : oh i don'tknow how many she lost to parvo
[01:16:01 09/06/10] ram : Two mumified puppies, one clef palate, only 2 live pups - can't get re-bred yet comes into heat and not releasing any eggs to be fertalized - the doge has Herpes
[01:16:25 09/06/10] TR8 : I can tell, she has a hissy fit whenever anything is brought up that is negative
[01:16:45 09/06/10] TR8 : The expert of the century...lololol
[01:17:33 09/06/10] feathers : freakin drunk
[01:18:18 09/06/10] ram : she is no expert - but a lonely self absorbed mentally unstable individual
[01:18:19 09/06/10] feathers : I was married to a man that when sober everone loved let him drink his momma didn't even like him
[01:18:43 09/06/10] feathers : Ram i believe that
[01:19:19 09/06/10] TR8 : thinking that may be the problem..the over reactions are amazing, none of the rest to nutso like that.
[01:20:47 09/06/10] TR8 : She must be spittin mad this morning...not links to post on KIJIJI
[01:20:59 09/06/10] feathers : you seethe pictures she post always some one with a drink in there hand
[01:21:22 09/06/10] TR8 : yepper, noticed that.
[01:21:45 09/06/10] feathers : Oh you know notposting them damn links
[01:22:27 09/06/10] feathers : when I ask a question I want some ones exsperience not a frakin link I can look up myself
[01:22:30 09/06/10] TR8 : My concern is quite a few listen to her and some of her info on training is great stuff, but she then starts emailing these people and won't leave them alone.. I know someone she did this to.
[01:22:51 09/06/10] ram : She will be back -
[01:23:11 09/06/10] feathers : ohshe loves the attention about like Lady Scar
[01:23:26 09/06/10] ram : she needs to regroup her followers
[01:23:31 09/06/10] TR8 : Where's she gonna go..the big time breeders don't lister to her
[01:23:49 09/06/10] TR8 : She has few now.. even Lukes mom is pissed off with her
[01:24:00 09/06/10] feathers : they came the one night never posted just watched
[01:24:46 09/06/10] feathers : and her friend Elsy something never came back
[01:25:05 09/06/10] TR8 : She sold a dog to someone in WA state and they have to come to Canada to show..can't get anywhere with AKC...
[01:25:06 09/06/10] feathers : elsmoor ?
[01:25:13 09/06/10] ram : I think Nanagoo and Angus have seen the light which is why they stepped back and let the thread continue
[01:25:39 09/06/10] TR8 : AKA TX or Terrier X...not really a friend, just another know it all.
[01:25:47 09/06/10] feathers : Me to I reported her on 2 threads for trolling
[01:26:19 09/06/10] TR8 : Blood bath, Angus and Nanagoo, just let it happen, figured it would never stop til someone finally left!
[01:26:48 09/06/10] feathers : I went to pluba when the US kijiji shut down but nothing interested me on there just bragiing about titles
[01:26:57 09/06/10] TR8 : Watch out for the name Diddybopper, that's her AKA
[01:27:26 09/06/10] feathers : Must be when she is drunk
[01:27:30 09/06/10] feathers : lol
[01:27:30 09/06/10] ram : AKA???
[01:27:49 09/06/10] ram : never mind already know
[01:28:12 09/06/10] feathers : I think it all back fired on them when we all kept our cool and she started the name calling
[01:28:52 09/06/10] feathers : aka also known as
[01:29:01 09/06/10] TR8 : Yep, we "done" good..lol
[01:29:38 09/06/10] feathers : I am use to arguing with a drunk LOL had the upper hand
[01:29:51 09/06/10] feathers : they hate calm
[01:30:17 09/06/10] TR8 : I was soooo insulted with those names...lol Just watched and waited.
[01:30:18 09/06/10] feathers : I know she would have hit me if she could have
[01:30:52 09/06/10] feathers : I slammed her hard this moring you see it[01:30:55 09/06/10] ram : NO no - I'm the one she wants to kill
[01:31:02 09/06/10] TR8 : Oh, for sure feathers...your cool way of answering was driving her nuts
[01:31:41 09/06/10] TR8 : Ram..she's out to get you.. She'll be researching cattle and then come back with what you should and should not do
[01:31:50 09/06/10] ram : Even had one person on the Red thread who was new (only 3 posts) ask how to get hold of me for councelling
[01:31:53 09/06/10] feathers : thats me if you can't take the truth better watch out
[01:32:57 09/06/10] TR8 : No, didn't see it feather's was it deleted before I got logged in maybe??
[01:33:17 09/06/10] feathers : OMG I think I need councelling I made room for that damn dog
[01:33:38 09/06/10] ram : so what did the Vet say
[01:33:42 09/06/10] feathers : 8 puppies in her and she is ate up with mange
[01:34:02 09/06/10] feathers : poor thing is one smelly mess
[01:34:16 09/06/10] TR8 : Oh, crap..sorry Feathers
[01:34:51 09/06/10] ram : Ivomec is the only thing you can use for mange which is effective - but you can't use that with puppies coming soon - it will kill them
[01:35:18 09/06/10] TR8 : How about a dip? can that be done...?
[01:35:20 09/06/10] feathers : well she doesn't need the puppies
[01:35:44 09/06/10] feathers : I am seriously think of doing away with them at birth
[01:36:11 09/06/10] TR8 : might be the best idea.
[01:36:20 09/06/10] ram : don't do that - they deserve a chance
[01:36:21 09/06/10] feathers : She was a stray picked up by one of my bird club members Nicki
[01:36:35 09/06/10] TR8 : what kind of dog?
[01:36:41 09/06/10] feathers : Pug
[01:36:43 09/06/10] ram : do you have any idea what she was bred to
[01:36:58 09/06/10] TR8 : Oh, maybe McPug will take her for ya? lol
[01:37:01 09/06/10] feathers : no clue the heads are not to big[01:37:34 09/06/10] feathers : Mcsmug would die if she seen her
[01:37:58 09/06/10] ram : Try hydrogen Peroxide - it won't harm the pups and is very effective against mites and lice
[01:38:24 09/06/10] ram : it may help on the mange till the pups are born
[01:39:02 09/06/10] feathers : I almost took her picture and posted on face book telling whoever kicked her out that I hoped they started wetting the bed got the shits for a year and heartburn non stop
[01:39:19 09/06/10] feathers : assholes
[01:39:32 09/06/10] TR8 : There is a recipe for mange but I've never used it...20 mule team Borax mixed with Hyd. Peroxide..don't know the mix amount, but apparenty it works great.
[01:40:09 09/06/10] feathers : bet it would going to get some at least it will helpwiththe stench
[01:40:23 09/06/10] feathers : she smalls so bad
[01:40:29 09/06/10] feathers : smells
[01:41:14 09/06/10] TR8 : I just don't have it in me to do stuff like that.. I can't understand how anyone can. They should be tared and feathered..pardon the pun Feathers.
[01:41:35 09/06/10] feathers : I wasn't going to take her but my Vet was you can do it she needs someone like you
[01:42:30 09/06/10] TR8 : glad you did Feathers, but it's a lot of work for you ..poor dog
[01:43:07 09/06/10] feathers : I had to build a isolation area for her mine was full of the new dogs I have been buying
[01:43:42 09/06/10] TR8 : I know, I want that dachsie...what a beauty. Mange is so contagious
[01:43:46 09/06/10] feathers : Have her in a shed that had AC.
[01:44:05 09/06/10] feathers : now keeping it contained to the shed
[01:44:19 09/06/10] ram : another mixture you can use is lime ans supphur
[01:44:32 09/06/10] TR8 : Oh, someone's here, I've got pups..will be back on soon.
[01:44:33 09/06/10] feathers : Oh the worse part she a pug wants to be held
[01:44:38 09/06/10] ram : sulphur
[01:44:56 09/06/10] TR8 : lime and sulpher.. I'll look into that, never heard of that one.
[01:45:24 09/06/10] feathers : thats what were using on her but I am thinking a bath in the soap and perxcide to
[01:45:24 09/06/10] ram : very old remedy used long before you were born
[01:46:05 09/06/10] feathers : wouldn't the lime burn her where she is raw
[01:47:04 09/06/10] feathers : what is the powder called that you put on proud flesh that is what maggot excret ?
[01:47:20 09/06/10] ram : I beleive the mixture is 30 parts water to 1 part lime and sulphur
[01:47:34 09/06/10] feathers : I am thinking that might help the infection
[01:48:20 09/06/10] feathers : the lime would dry up the gooey parts
[01:48:51 09/06/10] feathers : she is a mess never have I seen anything like it
[01:49:24 09/06/10] ram : Start with the peroxide - soak her with it - wait 30 minutes so it penetrates the outer layer of skin - then bath her in a mild soap and water
[01:49:29 09/06/10] feathers : I was thinking Put her down the Vet didn't charge just so I would keepher
[01:50:25 09/06/10] ram : Nicki disappeared
[01:50:27 09/06/10] feathers : well I need to go have to turn off water in the groves
[01:50:39 09/06/10] feathers : she had a customer show up
[01:50:50 09/06/10] ram : talk later then
[01:51:10 09/06/10] feathers : you take care and be careful outin all the mud
[06:06:37 09/06/10] eatamouse : YOU HOO! ANYONE HERE?
[06:07:06 09/06/10] eatamouse : Will check back later, gater!
[06:15:32 09/06/10] feathers : hey mouse I am here
[06:21:55 09/06/10] eatamouse : Woo hoo...hi feathers!
[06:24:36 09/06/10] eatamouse : Is there a way to be notified when someone is here?
[06:29:14 09/06/10] feathers : oh I was checking my mail
[06:29:49 09/06/10] feathers : we need tomake a time to meet I guess
[06:33:59 09/06/10] eatamouse : Yep, that would be cool
[06:34:22 09/06/10] feathers : so are you ready for those poopers
[06:34:31 09/06/10] eatamouse : I just posted some pup pictures on the other mean site...haha Under your pup thread
[06:34:51 09/06/10] eatamouse : I am always ready for pups! I have the whelping supplies sitting right next to me
[06:34:57 09/06/10] feathers : goodmaybe it wont get locked or deleted lol
[06:35:10 09/06/10] eatamouse : Can you believe it! haha
[06:35:21 09/06/10] feathers : dachie delivered another litter today
[06:35:42 09/06/10] feathers : her farming is doing great
[06:35:47 09/06/10] eatamouse : WOW! That is 2 this week....
[06:35:53 09/06/10] feathers : i have 2 due this week
[06:35:53 09/06/10] eatamouse : what a good dog farmer!
[06:36:06 09/06/10] eatamouse : with those little noses I bet they just slip out
[06:36:12 09/06/10] feathers : willmake 4 for me this month
[06:36:24 09/06/10] eatamouse : litters? wow!!!!
[06:36:30 09/06/10] eatamouse : are they all in the house?
[06:36:42 09/06/10] eatamouse : wonderful news! you work hard
[06:36:53 09/06/10] feathers : one litteris a stray i was talked into bringing home ohmouse she is in such bad shape
[06:36:54 09/06/10] eatamouse : how are the prices in florida
[06:37:06 09/06/10] eatamouse : awwww...bless her heart
[06:37:13 09/06/10] feathers : about the same as every where
[06:37:16 09/06/10] eatamouse : what is she
[06:37:29 09/06/10] eatamouse : pug prices are holding strong here
[06:37:36 09/06/10] eatamouse : last year I was down to 5 each
[06:37:44 09/06/10] eatamouse : this year back up to normal[06:37:54 09/06/10] feathers : I got a call 2 days ago from a woman in my bird club a stray pug infested with mange ready to pop
[06:38:25 09/06/10] eatamouse : aren't you afraid it will spread...I am such a chicken
[06:38:34 09/06/10] eatamouse : what kind of mange?
[06:38:49 09/06/10] feathers : took her to the Vet yesterday she has mange so bad and 8 puppies in her ready at any time vet said
[06:38:58 09/06/10] eatamouse : loss of hair too
[06:39:13 09/06/10] eatamouse : oh my gosh! ivermectin time?
[06:39:21 09/06/10] feathers : sarcopic mange
[06:39:50 09/06/10] eatamouse : yep...ivermectin shots two weeks apart, then resolution each month
[06:39:54 09/06/10] feathers : hardly any hair at all I have never seen anything so bad in my life
[06:40:12 09/06/10] eatamouse : hard to get rid of in your humid climate
[06:40:25 09/06/10] feathers : smell oh god the smell is bad
[06:40:52 09/06/10] eatamouse : I hate to admit this but my dogs got it from a rescue and I caught it before any hair loss
[06:40:58 09/06/10] eatamouse : no smell with mine
[06:41:02 09/06/10] feathers : My Vet begged me to take her he never even charge for the med s
[06:41:11 09/06/10] eatamouse : treated every dog on the place
[06:41:18 09/06/10] eatamouse : THAT is a good vet!
[06:41:35 09/06/10] eatamouse : she had it a long time to be in that condition
[06:41:38 09/06/10] feathers : hers is infected runny pussy oh just can'tbelieve how bad
[06:41:45 09/06/10] eatamouse : do the pups look like pugs
[06:41:52 09/06/10] eatamouse : oh no, infected too
[06:42:05 09/06/10] eatamouse : internal and external antibiotics too?
[06:42:17 09/06/10] feathers : heads are not realbig we will see when she whelps
[06:42:39 09/06/10] eatamouse : Oh, not had them yet...duh! haha
[06:42:51 09/06/10] eatamouse : That poor mama....
[06:43:34 09/06/10] eatamouse : The dog that infected my dog was from the south...I think it is more comman in humid climates..
[06:43:36 09/06/10] feathers : she hasn't had the pups yet mcauley dosen't want me to destroy them but I wasn't sure what to do he said give them a chance
[06:44:04 09/06/10] eatamouse : Wait and see...it could be a simple fix...
[06:44:17 09/06/10] eatamouse : The ivermectin is only 12 bucks a shot...
[06:44:19 09/06/10] feathers : she has no hair on her stomack
[06:44:56 09/06/10] feathers : Nicki said wash her in Borax and peroxicde
[06:44:56 09/06/10] eatamouse : That could also be a thrown coat from poor good during pregnancy
[06:45:12 09/06/10] eatamouse : Some of that sounds like hot spots too
[06:45:19 09/06/10] feathers : I have ivermectin
[06:45:21 09/06/10] eatamouse : Was she just on the streets?
[06:45:28 09/06/10] eatamouse : good!
[06:45:55 09/06/10] feathers : yes , on the streets trying to get people to pet her you know how pugs are
[06:46:16 09/06/10] eatamouse : There is also a natural mineral that you can spread around on your floor that will kill it...it is sometimes used with cattle...McC would know the name of it.
[06:46:24 09/06/10] feathers : she wants me to hold her I creied yesterday when I got her home
[06:46:29 09/06/10] eatamouse : AWWW, breaks my heart
[06:46:47 09/06/10] eatamouse : Do you have some calming shampoo? Like Vet's
[06:47:03 09/06/10] eatamouse : It can be so bad it hurts...
[06:47:22 09/06/10] eatamouse : It is very contagious....
[06:47:35 09/06/10] eatamouse : People can get it...I am sure you know all this...
[06:47:49 09/06/10] eatamouse : I was in shock and a dumb bunny when the vet told me!
[06:48:54 09/06/10] eatamouse : I have to go read the threads here....just got your email...
[06:49:32 09/06/10] feathers : me to I knew about it from working with a few rescues here but never seen a case this bad that the dogs were not put down think my vet is getting soft he loves pugs
[07:03:45 09/06/10] eatamouse : I am back after addressing my 'calling out'...
[07:16:16 09/06/10] feathers : lol wasmopping the floors you seemouseie post about the baby being killed
[07:16:38 09/06/10] feathers : its is in chit chat
[07:49:31 09/06/10] eatamouse : Just saw the thread on huskie killing baby...idiot parent and granny!
[12:10:37 09/06/10] @ Boston : one sec yorkie
[12:10:45 09/06/10] @ yorkiemom : k
[12:11:03 09/06/10] @ yorkiemom : not going to be here long just really popped in to say hello

just highlighted the real interesting part..

You forgot to highlight....

just did..

but feel free to highlight the parts you all like

The killing off the pups at birth.. got me..

oh and the mange that is sitting in the shed.. with no active treatment as of that conversation.. When did you rescue this dog?

I saw that last night and was sick to my stomach. Very, very sad.

now lets talk litters

eh?

shall we highlight the section

Didnt.... Feathers say.. she has had 2 litters this month.. and she is expect ing 2 litters this week?

that woiuld be 4 and it is only the 12 of june

Mini wrote:

Didnt.... Feathers say.. she has had 2 litters this month.. and she is expect ing 2 litters this week?

that woiuld be 4 and it is only the 12 of june

Yes, but she breeds "collector pets", whatever the hell that means.

Well very interesting, informative post. Nice to see the trolls come out from the gutter!!!

my whole point in posting this


Sorry feathers.. you have been a member here a long time, I am taken back by what has happened. Even more so lately

The have all come here to start their little games and their little war.

By all means like I have addressed lets tango

But I have the balls to address you in open forum

You call red all of those things.. Look in your own back yard prior to even wasting the energy with your finger tips.. cause you are far not up to par on ethics

rotncorso wrote:

Mini wrote:

Didnt.... Feathers say.. she has had 2 litters this month.. and she is expect ing 2 litters this week?

that woiuld be 4 and it is only the 12 of june

Yes, but she breeds "collector pets", whatever the hell that means.

Collector pets?

is that slang for poorly bred mutts?

2 words (and I'm blunt as all can be)

PUPPY MILL!!!!!!!!!!

I am laughing my ass off because as newbies here I guess they didn't know that their own words could come back and bite them in the ass. Have I told y'all lately that I LOVE KIBBLES & BITS!!!!!!

My personal favoirite below...what a silly statement to make, like Red would drug her dogs for a photo...

[01:06:10 09/06/10] eatamouse : Red's dogs looked drugged in those pictures with kids...like giving a horse too much bute before taking it to auction!
[01:06:13 09/06/10] TR8 : oh, I know she needs our expertise, but she will not listen, thus...ah well
[01:06:40 09/06/10] feathers : ohyou know your bute ? yea old trick
[01:06:43 09/06/10] eatamouse : Too bad...many she would have a normal size litter for a large breed dog.
[01:06:43 09/06/10] TR8 : I said that in the post, I think that is what did it to her...thanks for the tip
[01:07:08 09/06/10] eatamouse : I learned the hard way about bute by buying a horse at auction...it was nutts!
[01:07:26 09/06/10] feathers : if he was letting his penis hang low then yes ...........will that do that to a dog or just a horse ?

Phenylbutazone or Bute is a common pain reliever and anti inflammatory...it is Not a Tranquilizer, far from it. I don't think anyone needs their "expertise" if this is an example. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Mini wrote:

Didnt.... Feathers say.. she has had 2 litters this month.. and she is expect ing 2 litters this week?

that woiuld be 4 and it is only the 12 of june

That's what I read

pooperscooper wrote:

Mini wrote:

Didnt.... Feathers say.. she has had 2 litters this month.. and she is expect ing 2 litters this week?

that woiuld be 4 and it is only the 12 of june

That's what I read

Hence my 2 word comment!!!

LOL really ladies you have it in front of you read it don't skim through and make up the rest I have 2 litters now because I took in a Pug that is sick she has staff infection and yeast infection on top of mange her puppies can't nurse off of her and my concern was should they be put to sleep . Don't you think if I would help the mother i care about the best for the pups ? The rescue was going to put her down but my Vet wanted me to work with her .

She is on meds in a Air conditioned shed where I have set up a hospital unit and being kept away from my animals .

exactly what is wrong with that . or is the problem that you think I should put down the mother now ? When she is well enough the rescue will take her but they refused her because of how dangerous the mange is .
And we know animal control would have put her down as soon as she was brought in .

I do allot of rescue work I pay for it out of my pocket I don't post pictures and bragg about doing a kindness I look at it as paying it forward . None of you know me , none of you know how hard I try and help others.
I was all ways taught that if you had to bragg about a good deed you really were not doing a good deed out of the kindness of your heart but doing it for attention so people would think you were better than you are .
It sickens me when I see every one bragging about Oh I helped do this look look how good I am . NOT just a freakin attention getter.

I seen where some of you said I make you sick well allot of you have always made me sick !

feathers wrote:

LOL really ladies you have it in front of you read it don't skim through and make up the rest I have 2 litters now because I took in a Pug that is sick she has staff infection and yeast infection on top of mange her puppies can't nurse off of her and my concern was should they be put to sleep . Don't you think if I would help the mother i care about the best for the pups ? The rescue was going to put her down but my Vet wanted me to work with her .

She is on meds in a Air conditioned shed where I have set up a hospital unit and being kept away from my animals .

exactly what is wrong with that . or is the problem that you think I should put down the mother now ? When she is well enough the rescue will take her but they refused her because of how dangerous the mange is .
And we know animal control would have put her down as soon as she was brought in .

I do allot of rescue work I pay for it out of my pocket I don't post pictures and bragg about doing a kindness I look at it as paying it forward . None of you know me , none of you know how hard I try and help others.
I was all ways taught that if you had to bragg about a good deed you really were not doing a good deed out of the kindness of your heart but doing it for attention so people would think you were better than you are .
It sickens me when I see every one bragging about Oh I helped do this look look how good I am . NOT just a freakin attention getter.

I seen where some of you said I make you sick well allot of you have always made me sick !

Give me the violin. Sorry dear.. again I think you speak of me.. well get some balls. But that is here nor there.

The point of the conversation isn't that you rescued this dog-- IMO.. The point is you left the vets after confirming of pregnancy without a clear way to help this dog. You still are not sure how, this dog is going mad right now with itching.. and then you want and casually IMO say you are going to destroy the litter.

I personally don't agree with the comments about killing the pups at birth. Mange can be treated. If your vet deems she is savable them save them. If the pups are deformed.. then yes ethunize them.. I know what I would do in your shoes. But that is only my opinion.

If you find me sick or bragging so be it. No one is making you stay. However, I am not the type of individual to send emails and call for back up. I say what I say and I don't pussy foot around things.

It is evident in your conversation with your friends. The sole purpose of coming here. Like I said lets tango to your friends. I don't agree with your breeding ethics. I do think your a puppy mill. I do think you are a hypocrit. LIke you are entittled to your opinions

I read the whole thing line for line and it really showed me the type of people that you all are...

I have no issue with you trying to help out that poor dog.
I am disgusted by what you few posted in chat attacking a reputable breeder.
Suggesting Red drugs penny hit an all time low. Making fun of the losses in her last litter is pretty disgusting also.
I dont agree with pumping out pups to make your living but there is no law against it.
Still wondering what breeding "collector pets" is

rotncorso wrote:

I have no issue with you trying to help out that poor dog.
I am disgusted by what you few posted in chat attacking a reputable breeder.
Suggesting Red drugs penny hit an all time low. Making fun of the losses in her last litter is pretty disgusting also.
I dont agree with pumping out pups to make your living but there is no law against it.
Still wondering what breeding "collector pets" is

My issues lie with that as well..

Normally I don't care what goes on in chat. but IMO you and your friends came on here to have fun.. and in the process managed to pick apart anyone that has a large breed dog..

Furthermore Nicki.. admitted in chat she was scared of large dogs. Is this the basis for her stupid remarks. Heck I am terrified of cows.. and I have them.. LMFAO.. Doesn't mean I make up stupid comments to people that have cows.. OH I am waiting for the comment cows haven't hurt or killed PEOPLE...... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Isn't that sweet?

I think they all have a crush on me.

;)

Have a crush on you Red - sorry but that is so far from the truth. I don't like you and have very little respect for you. My dislike has nothing to do with the Breed of dog you choose to raise, or your breeding program, nor does it have anything to do with your accomplishments in the Rotti dog world. To me you are a very insecure, insincere, lonely individual who possibly tips the bottle a little to often. You feel that in order to be accepted you have to flaunt your accomplishments in regards to how perfect your dogs are, this is a proven fact in that you advertise every little accomplishment any of your dogs ever achieve. By doing so you put yourself on a pedestal above everyone else, and make certain that you come across as being better or more intelligent than any other person. Definite signs of a weak insecure individual. Drop the Bull Shit, forget the copy and paste crap and just be you. Give an opinion based on your experiences. You are no better and no worse than any other dog owner or breeder. You can be a very powerful ambassador for the Rotti Breed and the fight against BSL if you would just be you - forget all the stats you have in your head which you no doubt quote as often as possible, along with several other quotes I've heard such as "punish the deed and not the breed" and "responsible ownership" . BSL is being passed out of fear - talk and stats won't make that go away - logical reasoning flutters out the window when your dealing with fear - prime example - when the planes began flying after 911 - even with all the security and armed air marshals on board it was well over a year before people began to ease their fear of flying and started flying again. And with each passing year more people began to fly as they could see once again how safe it is. BSL is the same - slowly alleviate the peoples fears with positive experiences and eventually BSL will slowly slip away and become a thing of the past. And as a closing note - people aren't attacking you because of your dogs or breeding practices their attacking you in an attempt to break through that brick wall you have built around yourself, their attacking you because you talk down to people and not with people

My question is for feathers...how is your rescue pug doing today? I have been thinking of her off and on all day. Do you know how far along she is...?

eatamouse, I may be many things, but not much of a drinker.

I sleep very well at night. I have done right by my personal dogs, my breed, and my family.

What you think matters not one iota.

Why does what I do, think, or whatever, matter to you or Pene or Mcauley? You can farm dogs all you want, any of you, there is no law against it. In fact, I would strongly oppose laws against it. That is your right.

But you are what you are. A dog farmer.

It is small to bait people and make personal attacks where you think they won't see. Very small indeed. And no surprise either, I might add.

RedyreRotties wrote:

eatamouse, I may be many things, but not much of a drinker.

I sleep very well at night. I have done right by my personal dogs, my breed, and my family.

What you think matters not one iota.

Why does what I do, think, or whatever, matter to you or Pene or Mcauley? You can farm dogs all you want, any of you, there is no law against it. In fact, I would strongly oppose laws against it. That is your right.

But you are what you are. A dog farmer.

It is small to bait people and make personal attacks where you think they won't see. Very small indeed. And no surprise either, I might add.

1. I believe someone else said you were a drinker and I agreed you must have some chemical imbalance as your outbursts are usually at night and you ego seems to need a fan club type of attention and praise.

2. I also am sleeping well at night.

3. You do not matter to me...I am just tired of your ego needing a fan club to cheer your insecurity on. Your immaturity in name calling is old. You tantrum on a regular basis and come across as the ONLY person to know how to show, train, breed, etc etc etc. It is your attitude.

4. More name calling. Dog farmer. This Dog farmer has one litter being born this week. Call me anything you want. I am okay with you not liking me. Oh well...

5. Personal attacks were known to be seen on the chat...I, for one knew you would be here. You are everywhere you can clammer some attention.

This started out at a work of stats on large breed dogs harming individuals. It is too bad you do not have a human idenity of your own and can not see what truth is set before your eyes in the stats. No one has said your dogs were killers.

It was said people, including me, do not like rotts and pits...so what. You may not like pugs...I dont care and dont take that personally...I am not my dog breed.

If you are going to brag continuously about your sucessess, then be honest about your failures also. All humans have them. I have successes and failures in my breeding program. Just be real, red...you are not something special. Relax, enjoy life outside of your canine companions...there is alot out there to enjoy.

You may find fault with me, or with pene, or crash, kismet, mc caulty etc etc etc There are many many of us who laugh behind your back at your silly notions of fame. Seek counciling.